I am migrating my bbses from an old PC to a new PC. The old PC runs Windows 7 and the new PC is running Windows 11 Pro. I am running Synchronet 3.19b on the old PC.

I am trying to install 3.19b onto the new Win 11 PC and getting the error 0xc000007b.

I have copied the DLLs mscvr100.dll and vcruntime140.dll to the new machine because I got errors saying they were missing when I first tried to run Synch.

I also installed the vcredist files from 2005 thru 2022.

Still getting the error... any ideas?

(oh the error comes from sbbsctrl.exe)

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to All on Fri Aug 29 2025 08:08 am

I am migrating my bbses from an old PC to a new PC. The old
PC runs Windows 7 and the new PC is running Windows 11 Pro. I am
running Synchronet 3.19b on the old PC.

I am trying to install 3.19b onto the new Win 11 PC and getting
the error 0xc000007b.

I have copied the DLLs mscvr100.dll and vcruntime140.dll to the new
machine because I got errors saying they were missing when I first
tried to run Synch.

I also installed the vcredist files from 2005 thru 2022.

Still getting the error... any ideas?

are you trying to load a 64bit dll in a 32bit process or vice versa?
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to All on Fri Aug 29 2025 08:08 am

I am migrating my bbses from an old PC to a new PC. The old PC runs Windows 7 and the new PC is running Windows 11 Pro. I am running Synchronet 3.19b on the old PC.

I am trying to install 3.19b onto the new Win 11 PC and getting the error 0xc000007b.

I have copied the DLLs mscvr100.dll and vcruntime140.dll to the new machine because I got errors saying they were missing when I first tried to run Synch.

I also installed the vcredist files from 2005 thru 2022.

Still getting the error... any ideas?

(oh the error comes from sbbsctrl.exe)

First, as an experiment, trying running sbbs.exe instead of sbbsctrl.exe and see what if any error you get and report it back here

It'd also be useful to know what console/log output comes out of sbbs.exe before a crash.
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:08 am

are you trying to load a 64bit dll in a 32bit process or vice versa?

Win11 is 64-bit. And 32-bit DLLs load just find on 64-bit Windows. It could be something to do with trying to run 16-bit programs however (and 64-bit editions of Windows don't include a 16-bit compatible subsystem). Maybe some kind of event? <shrug>
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 12:06 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:08 am

are you trying to load a 64bit dll in a 32bit process or vice versa?

Win11 is 64-bit. And 32-bit DLLs load just find on 64-bit Windows.
It could be something to do with trying to run 16-bit programs
however (and 64-bit editions of Windows don't include a 16-bit
compatible subsystem). Maybe some kind of event? <shrug>

i just looked up the code and some people were having that issue.
i'm not sure if it lets you install 32bit on a 64bit platform for VC distributable.
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:08 am

are you trying to load a 64bit dll in a 32bit process or vice versa?

Good question. I don't know.

I am running Synchronet Control Panel in Windows 11.

maybe the DLLs I copied from the Win 7 machine are 32 bit and the sbbsctrl.exe is 64? I don't know...

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 12:04 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to All on Fri Aug 29 2025 08:08 am
First, as an experiment, trying running sbbs.exe instead of sbbsctrl.exe and see what if any error you get and report it back here

Same error reported by sbbs.exe

It'd also be useful to know what console/log output comes out of sbbs.exe before a crash.

Where do I find this log?

(I'm sorry I don't know more. I set up this BBS three years ago and it just runs. I took over a friend's bbs [Retrorunning - also 3.19b]. Just copied his system into my system and it went on running. Easiest BBS I have ever set up and there have been more than a few. :) )

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Aug 29 2025 02:23 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:08 am

i just looked up the code and some people were having that issue.
i'm not sure if it lets you install 32bit on a 64bit platform for VC distributable.

For the vcRedist files I got them here: www.techpowerup.com/download/ and installed them using the included batch file that installs them all. No errors during this process.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Aug 29 2025 02:23 pm

i'm not sure if it lets you install 32bit on a 64bit platform for VC distributable.

It does and it's okay.
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 01:13 pm

Good question. I don't know.

I am running Synchronet Control Panel in Windows 11.

maybe the DLLs I copied from the Win 7 machine are 32 bit and the sbbsctrl.exe is 64? I don't know...

Synchronet for Windows is currently 32-bit only, but installs and runs fine on 64-bit Windows (without any special magic). The only "gotcha" is 16-bit DOS program support which is documented pretty well on wiki.synchro.net.
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Aug 29 2025 02:23 pm

i just looked up the code and some people were having that issue. i'm not sure if it lets you install 32bit on a 64bit platform for VC distributable.

I'm pretty sure you can because I've done it before. You'd need to install the 32-bit VC redistributable in order to run 32-bit software that depends on it.

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Bf2k+ wrote to Digital Man <=-

(I'm sorry I don't know more. I set up this BBS three years ago and it just runs. I took over a friend's bbs [Retrorunning - also 3.19b].
Just copied his system into my system and it went on running. Easiest
BBS I have ever set up and there have been more than a few. :) )

Sounds like a good opportunity to stop being an "autopilot sysop" and
actually figure out how things work... You know, like a real sysop.




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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to Digital Man on Fri Aug 29 2025 01:21 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 12:04 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to All on Fri Aug 29 2025 08:08 am
First, as an experiment, trying running sbbs.exe instead of sbbsctrl.exe

and

see what if any error you get and report it back here

Same error reported by sbbs.exe

It'd also be useful to know what console/log output comes out of sbbs.exe before a crash.

Where do I find this log?

sbbs.exe on Windows just logs to the screen/console. You should be able copy/paste from that console into a message here.

(I'm sorry I don't know more. I set up this BBS three years ago and it just runs. I took over a friend's bbs [Retrorunning - also 3.19b]. Just copied his system into my system and it went on running. Easiest BBS I have ever set up and there have been more than a few. :) )

You could also try a fresh install of Synchronet v3.19b on that same system to confirm it's not a system-level issue. i.e. it's something to do with that particular *configuration* of Synchronet that's not compatible with the new system.
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 01:28 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Aug 29 2025 02:23 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:08 am

i just looked up the code and some people were having that issue.
i'm not sure if it lets you install 32bit on a 64bit platform for VC distributable.

For the vcRedist files I got them here: www.techpowerup.com/download/ and installed them using the included batch file that installs them all. No errors during this process.

The correct place to Microsoft packages is from Microsoft's web-sites. There are links provided here: https://wiki.synchro.net/install:win
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Re: Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Gamgee to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 04:55 pm

Sounds like a good opportunity to stop being an "autopilot sysop" and actually figure out how things work... You know, like a real sysop.

Would I then get to be more like you?
I hope not.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 04:23 pm

sbbs.exe on Windows just logs to the screen/console. You should be able copy/paste from that console into a message here.

If you mean in the main synchronet window, it never loads. It aborts with the error immediately.

And this is a completely new installation of 3.19b on a completely new install of Windows 11 on a newly built PC. I have not even attempted to move my bbs over to this machine.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 01:13 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 11:08 am

are you trying to load a 64bit dll in a 32bit process or vice versa?

Good question. I don't know.

I am running Synchronet Control Panel in Windows 11.

maybe the DLLs I copied from the Win 7 machine are 32 bit and the sbbsctrl.exe is 64? I don't know...

well do what rob says and collect the error msgs in the console.
then backup everything and then 'transplant' the files you need from github
or run synchronet upgrade executable from the sbbs site.

personally i think your best bet is to run your bbs in a 32bit windows 10 vm. if you need an .iso, i have one here if you need it. I just installed one
last weekend.
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 09:51 pm

well do what rob says and collect the error msgs in the console.

I'd love to. But if I understand you correctly, the 'console' is the Synchronet Control panel and it never loads. The errors pops up upon execution and immediately shuts down.

I could load Process Monitor, run sbbs and then capture that PM log and send that. Would that help?

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Hey Bf2k+!

On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 21:15:46 -0700, you wrote:

I'd love to. But if I understand you correctly, the 'console' is the Synchronet Control panel and it never loads. The errors pops up upon execution and immediately shuts down.

The 'console' is not the Synchronet Control Panel. It's the Windows command prompt. Open that, 'cd' to your 'sbbs\exec' directory, and manually type "sbbs".

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 09:15 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 09:51 pm

well do what rob says and collect the error msgs in the console.

I'd love to. But if I understand you correctly, the 'console' is the Synchronet Control panel and it never loads. The errors pops up upon execution and immediately shuts down.

I could load Process Monitor, run sbbs and then capture that PM log and send that. Would that help?

I think I had a similar issue while I was installing SBBS on a Windows 11 Insider Preview on a virtual machine.

I did a couple of experiments, but what I found out was I was installing the wrong version of the VC redist files; you should download and install the x86 instead of the x64 ones (but in my case, I just installed both; they installed together nicely and I didn't have problems with my SBBS executables.)

When I was still had the x64 version installed, I wondered why the dll files are not found even though I saw the .dll files in C:\Windows\System32; then I tried copying the said DLL files in the C:\Sbbs\Exec directory, and an error similar to that occurred, regardless of the SBBS executable I run (sbbsctrl.exe, sbbs.exe, jsexec.exe).

After installing the x86 version, and deleting the .dll files in C:\Sbbs\Exec, it started working.

Could you confirm that you have only installed the dll files via the Microsoft installer, and not copied arbitrarily the .dll files to your SBBS installation directories?

Hope this helps.

- Wang Bu

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to MRO on Fri Aug 29 2025 09:15 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 09:51 pm

well do what rob says and collect the error msgs in the console.

I'd love to. But if I understand you correctly, the 'console'
is the Synchronet Control panel and it never loads. The errors
pops up upon execution and immediately shuts down.

rob told you to run the sbbs.exe executable. do you still get that
error msg if you try to run it?
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to Digital Man on Fri Aug 29 2025 07:02 pm

Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 04:23 pm

sbbs.exe on Windows just logs to the screen/console. You should be able copy/paste from that console into a message here.

If you mean in the main synchronet window, it never loads. It aborts with the error immediately.

Run sbbs.exe in a command prompt. There is no "main window" in that case, it's just console output that you should be able to copy and paste here.

And this is a completely new installation of 3.19b on a completely new install of Windows 11 on a newly built PC. I have not even attempted to move my bbs over to this machine.

Okay, good to know. Why not v3.20 install then?
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Wang Bu to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 30 2025 09:30 am

I could load Process Monitor, run sbbs and then capture that PM log
and send that. Would that help?

I think I had a similar issue while I was installing SBBS on a
Windows 11 Insider Preview on a virtual machine.

I did a couple of experiments, but what I found out was I was
installing the wrong version of the VC redist files; you should
download and install the x86 instead of the x64 ones (but in my
case, I just installed both; they installed together nicely and I
didn't have problems with my SBBS executables.)

When I was still had the x64 version installed, I wondered why the
dll files are not found even though I saw the .dll files in

i think this is the problem he has.
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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Accession to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 30 2025 08:39 am

The 'console' is not the Synchronet Control Panel. It's the Windows command prompt. Open that, 'cd' to your 'sbbs\exec' directory, and manually type "sbbs".

I had already done that and it just popped up the error in a little window and said nothing else.

But just a few minutes ago, MRO got online with me and he figured it out and now it is all working!!! YAY!!! Wotta guy! Big Thanks!

I had bad DLLs from the site I listed earlier in this thread.

But I think the first DLLs I copied from the original Windows 7 machine were the original problem as the error showed up before I went searching for solutions on youtube and downloaded the junk DLLs.

At any rate, life is good and thanks to all for your suggestions.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Wang Bu to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 30 2025 09:30 am

Could you confirm that you have only installed the dll files via the Microsoft installer, and not copied arbitrarily the .dll files to your SBBS installation directories?

Originally vcruntime140.dll and mscvr100.dll were missing and sbbs reported these missing. I copied them from my original machine and that cleared those errors but that's when the 0xc000007b error started showing up. Maybe I should have installed them instead of copying them.

I'm sure the problem was a 'nut loose behind the wheel'.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 30 2025 04:51 pm

Okay, good to know. Why not v3.20 install then?

I didn't want to upgrade to 3.20 on the Windows 7 machine. I wanted to move the working 3.19 bbs to the new machine and then upgrade to 3.20.

Now since 3.20 is working on the new machine, I have the choice of doing it either way (I think.)

Anyway, thanks for all of your help.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Bf2k+ to Accession on Sat Aug 30 2025 07:19 pm

But just a few minutes ago, MRO got online with me and he figured
it out and now it is all working!!! YAY!!! Wotta guy! Big Thanks!

I had bad DLLs from the site I listed earlier in this thread.

But I think the first DLLs I copied from the original Windows 7
machine were the original problem as the error showed up before
I went searching for solutions on youtube and downloaded the junk
DLLs.

Dont know. i do know that gamers use that pack of vc distributables with
the batchfile that launches them one by one and i see online gamers are complaining about this error msg.

So i think there is a mix of 32bit and 64
bit dlls. but like i said, you now have the correct ones in sbbs\exec so it will work fine for you in the future.
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Bf2k+ wrote to Gamgee <=-

Sounds like a good opportunity to stop being an "autopilot sysop" and actually figure out how things work... You know, like a real sysop.

Would I then get to be more like you?
I hope not.

You think that precisely because you're an autopilot sysop. Pffffftt.



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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: Digital Man to Bf2k+ on Fri Aug 29 2025 04:25 pm

The correct place to Microsoft packa
is from Microsoft's web-sites. There

I'm waiting to see where to get the
latest Macrohard packages.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 30 2025 09:57 pm

Dont know. i do know that gamers use that pack of vc distributables with the batchfile that launches them one by one and i see online gamers are complaining about this error msg.

Yeah the dude in the video was talking about needing them for gaming... Since I am not a gamer (even though I run one of the oldest Atari 8bit BBSes in the country since Jan 1984), it probably would have never occurred to me.

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Re: Error 0xc000007b
By: MRO to Bf2k+ on Sat Aug 30 2025 09:57 pm

So i think there is a mix of 32bit and 64 bit dlls. but like i said, you now have the correct ones in sbbs\exec so it will work fine for you in the future.

When I was running my BBS on Windows, I don't remember having to copy any additional DLLs into my sbbs\exec directory in order to get Synchronet to run.

As far as Visual Studio redistributables, I'm pretty sure the installer for those normally sets things up so that its DLLs are in the system path, so any program requiring them will be able to load them.

Nightfox

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